From surfboy@antares.cloudnet.com Sat Jan 11 10:13:11 1997 Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Left or Right??.... From: surfboy@antares.cloudnet.com (Larry Carlson) Date: 11 Jan 1997 10:13:11 GMT After reading a couple posts about mental block about going left or right I have to put my 2 cents in. At my break (San O') I think my block comes from where I see my truck. San O' has a noticable south drift, and I like to keep my truck in sight....so If I go right, I end up a considerable way down the beach then if I had gone left. Plus...I'm a goofy foot type dude. I don't know if my comfortableness going left has anything to do with being goofy-footed or if it just has something to do with being within paddeling distance of seeing my truck as a marker to where I began my surf journey. Maybe I just like to keep my truck in sight...I dunno..... you tell me... -- ===================================================================================== How can you have a good life if you surf? Stay wet.......and tan... Peace. Larry S Carlson From pasque@isp.net Sun Jan 12 04:18:26 1997 Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Left or Right??.... From: pasque@isp.net (Gioni Pasquinelli) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 21:18:26 -0700 This is something I have been wondering about in my limited surfing experience. Since I have only surfed the Santa Cruz area, I was wondering if this is true everywhere? It seems like the premier breaks go right and only occasionally are there lefts, but they are intense. And the lefts are all short but seem to pack a bigger punch. And, there aren't many lefts but lots of rights. For example, Sewer's Peak...the right is good, but the left when its firing is incredible although very short...the Middle Peak of the Lane is the same...and it seems that Pipeline is the same. The left is a very steep, very intense, very short drop and thats it whereas the right (Backdoor) is longer... Is this true everywhere? Or are lefts more prevalent on the East Coast whereas out here there are mostly rights? Again I have only surfed here in the Santa Cruz area so just wondering... G Gioni Pasquinelli pasque@isp.net www.isp.net/~pasque From aleeda@earthlink.net Tue Jan 14 00:15:46 1997 Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Left or Right??.... From: Omar Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 16:15:46 -0800 Gioni Pasquinelli wrote: > > This is something I have been wondering about in my limited surfing > experience. Since I have only surfed the Santa Cruz area, I was wondering > if this is true everywhere? It seems like the premier breaks go right and > only occasionally are there lefts, but they are intense. And the lefts > are all short but seem to pack a bigger punch. And, there aren't many > lefts but lots of rights. > > For example, Sewer's Peak...the right is good, but the left when its > firing is incredible although very short...the Middle Peak of the Lane is > the same...and it seems that Pipeline is the same. The left is a very > steep, very intense, very short drop and thats it whereas the right > (Backdoor) is longer... > > Is this true everywhere? Or are lefts more prevalent on the East Coast > whereas out here there are mostly rights? Again I have only surfed here > in the Santa Cruz area so just wondering... > > G > > Gioni Pasquinelli > pasque@isp.net > www.isp.net/~pasque The direction the wave breaks is pretty much based on what direction the swell is coming in from........it doesnt have to do with where you ride. Lefts in the summer.............Rights in the winter From robt2@ix.netcom.com Tue Jan 14 08:42:20 1997 Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Left or Right??.... From: robt2@ix.netcom.com(Rob(t.) Brannan) Date: 14 Jan 1997 08:42:20 GMT In <32DAD032.B19@earthlink.net> Omar writes: > >Gioni Pasquinelli wrote: >> >> This is something I have been wondering about in my limited surfing >> experience. Since I have only surfed the Santa Cruz area, I was wondering >> if this is true everywhere? It seems like the premier breaks go right and >> only occasionally are there lefts, but they are intense. And the lefts >> are all short but seem to pack a bigger punch. And, there aren't many >> lefts but lots of rights. >> >> For example, Sewer's Peak...the right is good, but the left when its >> firing is incredible although very short...the Middle Peak of the Lane is >> the same...and it seems that Pipeline is the same. The left is a very >> steep, very intense, very short drop and thats it whereas the right >> (Backdoor) is longer... >> >> Is this true everywhere? Or are lefts more prevalent on the East Coast >> whereas out here there are mostly rights? Again I have only surfed here >> in the Santa Cruz area so just wondering... >> >> G >> >> Gioni Pasquinelli >> pasque@isp.net >> www.isp.net/~pasque > A fairly accurate observation from what is observed in the media, print , films, etc.. , I have always wondered about the same, since I love lefts,. ,However Tavura and places in Bali all go left to include Reunion Island, also the east coast of Australia seems setup for a lot of left situations,also S.America ,pacific side in Summer is setup for lefts--heard of Chicamas in Peru. So its mostly a matter of the large populated surfing areas having mostly right point breaks, Calfornia,Hawaii...and the rest. From pasigal@aol.com Thu Jan 16 10:22:45 1997 Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Left or Right??.... From: pasigal@aol.com (Pasigal) Date: 16 Jan 1997 10:22:45 GMT Or are lefts more prevalent on the East Coast >> whereas out here there are mostly rights? Again I have only surfed here >> in the Santa Cruz area so just wondering... >> >> G >> >> Gioni Pasquinelli Actually, G, you're on the wrong side of Monterey Bay. On the south side, many of the most consistent waves are lefts due to the configuration of the bay and the prevailing swell direction (NW or W). Peter From szborges@dale.ucdavis.edu Wed Jan 15 15:10:21 1997 Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Left or Right??.... From: szborges@dale.ucdavis.edu (Will Borgeson) Date: 15 Jan 1997 15:10:21 GMT Omar (aleeda@earthlink.net) wrote: : The direction the wave breaks is pretty much based on what direction the : swell is coming in from........it doesnt have to do with where you : ride. Lefts in the summer.............Rights in the winter Bottom topography also has a lot to do with it...the lefts in summer, rights in winter rule doesn't hold very true in my area. We have some insane winter lefts and some good summer rights as well. The question isn't so much left or right, as frontside/backside. Frontside is cool because you can clearly see what you're doing, not looking over your shoulder, and it's easier to tuck into a barrel frontside than back. Backside is cool because you can hammer your cutbacks, and because if you *do* make it out of a barrel, i.e. with a layback, railgrab or whatever, it's very satisfying because it is more difficult. Ditto nailing a hard backside bottom turn. Feels awesome, especially when you know you're about to link it with a killer backside off-the-lip. I like both, but am glad to have mostly frontside, as I think overall it's more fun. Will From ???@??? Wed Jan 15 19:48:55 1997 Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Left or Right??.... From: (glide) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 19:48:55 GMT On 15 Jan 1997 15:10:21 GMT, szborges@dale.ucdavis.edu (Will Borgeson) wrote: >Backside is cool because you can hammer your cutbacks, and because >if you *do* make it out of a barrel, i.e. with a layback, railgrab or >whatever, it's very satisfying because it is more difficult. Ditto >nailing a hard backside bottom turn. Feels awesome, especially when you >know you're about to link it with a killer backside off-the-lip. Actually I think that you can gouge a harder cutback going frontside than backside. It's sort of similar to a backside bottom turn. It takes a long time to learn how to do it right, but once you have it down, you realize that it's one of the best feelings you can get from surfing. And it's more naturally "projecting" than a backside cutback or a frontside bottom turn (you have the potential to gain more momentum). Check out p. 76-77 in the February issue of Surfing, and you'll see what I mean. Not that us mortals could stick a cutback like this, but you get the idea. >I like both, but am glad to have mostly frontside, as I think >overall it's more fun. Depends on the wave. Personally, I surf backside better when it's fast and hollow, frontside better when it's slow or mushy. From pasigal@aol.com Thu Jan 16 10:30:22 1997 Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Left or Right??.... From: pasigal@aol.com (Pasigal) Date: 16 Jan 1997 10:30:22 GMT I like both, but am glad to have mostly frontside, as I think : >overall it's more fun. : : Depends on the wave. Personally, I surf backside better when it's fast : and hollow, frontside better when it's slow or mushy. Again slight disagreement...I think the most fun surfing is frontside when it's so fast that there is no thought of cutting back, no turning at all, or on a multi-fin just enuff turning to keep the board "happy" i.e. not bogging down, just these long carves, wondering all the while if you will *make* it. With all the stunts and moves that have been invented over the years, this simple act of "shooting the curl" remains, to me, the true essence of surfing. Let's face it, backside surfing in fast, hollow waves is slightly awkward, in that 1) you are having to look over your shoulder to see where you're going, and 2) it's very challenging to shape your body to fit in the tube, i.e. layback, layforward, crouching rail-grab, etc. Frontside you can stand like a man (or woman) and let the wave simply arch over you, assuming you're lucky enuff to find a wave that pitches out far enuff to let you do that. In this position of great control, you can make whatever tiny turn/trim adjustments needed...unlike in one of the awkward, "locked" backside positions. This is also the paradox of most island surfing, whatever island: the absence of a continental shelf makes the wave pitch out, facilitating tuberiding...all else equal, it is easier to make a barrel on a round island wave than on a mainland "almond-eye" deal, since the latter is more likely to axe you or the board. Just my $.03. Will From tweedt@aol.com Thu Jan 16 17:00:16 1997 Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Left or Right??.... From: tweedt@aol.com Date: 16 Jan 1997 17:00:16 GMT In article <5blh25$l0g$1@mark.ucdavis.edu>, szborges@dale.ucdavis.edu (Will Borgeson) writes: [snipped] > Let's face it, backside surfing in fast, hollow waves is slightly >awkward, in that 1) you are having to look over your shoulder to see where >you're going, and 2) it's very challenging to shape your body to fit in >the tube, i.e. layback, layforward, crouching rail-grab, etc. Frontside >you can stand like a man (or woman) and let the wave simply arch over you, >assuming you're lucky enuff to find a wave that pitches out far enuff to >let you do that. In this position of great control, you can make whatever >tiny turn/trim adjustments needed...unlike in one of the awkward, "locked" >backside positions. [more snips] IMHO, the most crucial difference in frontside and backside tuberiding (that has not been mentioned in this thread already) is the ability to punch out thru the back, or turn out under the lip, whatever you want to call it. This is much easier for me in a frontside tube, and I have never really seen anyone who has perfected it backside. Shaun Tomson was the guy who I first remember perfecting this move and popularizing it during the 70s (at Cave Rock and then Backdoor). Now it is a routine short board function. It allows you to wait much longer and keep driving down the line, watching to see how a tube is developing, whether or not it is makeable and open or pinching shut and closing out. At the last minute, if you aren't going to make it, you can turn hard into the face and punch through it out the back, sometimes even bringing your board thru with you, and avoid getting worked. Of course this has it's limits. As the tubes get bigger and more burly, you're more likely to not have the momentum to punch thru and you get sucked back over the falls. But backside it is nearly impossible on any but the smallest tubes- you don't have the leverage and your body is not positioned correctly to "dive" thru the wall- you're upside-down (or face-up). Maybe it would work if you arched your back and tried to do a "back dive" thru, so to speak, but it would be hard to put much power behind it. Usually, I just end up jumping sooner backside, if I'm not going to make it, or doing a flyaway kickout to try to escape (which requires a much earlier decision to exit). Of course, Shawn Briley would say: "What's the problem? Just pull in and eat shit!". But I'm afraid I'm just a little too conservative with my aging body these days, and I'm not even riding spots with shallow, coral bottoms, where the consequences are greater. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Tweed La Jolla, CA e-mail: tweedt@ucsd.edu or tweedt@aol.com "Don't let your mouth write no check that your tail can't cash." -- Bo Diddley -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From kdalle@slip.net Thu Jan 16 19:44:14 1997 Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Left or Right??.... From: kdalle@slip.net Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 19:44:14 +0000 tweedt@aol.com wrote: > IMHO, the most crucial difference in frontside and backside tuberiding > (that has not been mentioned in this thread already) is the ability to > punch out thru the back, or turn out under the lip, whatever you want to > call it. This is much easier for me in a frontside tube, and I have never > really seen anyone who has perfected it backside. > -- > Tom Tweed La Jolla, CA Actually pulling through backside is easier thant frontside because the lift off your heals is stronger than that off your toes. This is a maneuver that I picked up in the sixties from watching movies of Hawaiian. It was called and "Island Pullout". jeff From tweedt@aol.com Fri Jan 17 22:21:08 1997 Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Left or Right??.... From: tweedt@aol.com Date: 17 Jan 1997 22:21:08 GMT In article <32DE850E.41E3@slip.net>, kdalle@slip.net writes: [snipped my quoted stuff] >Actually pulling through backside is easier thant frontside because the >lift off your heals is stronger than that off your toes. This is a >maneuver that I picked up in the sixties from watching movies of >Hawaiian. It was called and "Island Pullout". I don't know if we're talking about the same thing. Yes, there is a semi-equivalent longboard move we picked up back in the 60s called a "standing Island pullout" which involves punching out through the back of the wave, but it is done from the *nose*, by applying pressure to the inside rail at the end of a noseride in a close-out section- digging the nose into the face, releasing the fin, which allows the tail of the board to pivot shoreward as you punch thru. But I also find these easier to do frontside than backside, and will usually grab a rail backside to help pull the board thru the face (which turns it into a "squatting" Island pullout). d:-) It seems to have more to do with the position of your body than the leverage you can apply with your feet. Backside, you always seem to be doing a "buttplant" into the face, presenting a lot of entry area to be "flypapered" to the wall with, kind of like a "bellyflop" when you're diving. Frontside, your arms and head are positioned to lead the rest of your body through the face, punching a clean hole in a more hydrodynamically streamlined manner, like a good clean entry on a front dive. Less resistance = less chance of getting sucked back over. Since noseriding is not really feasible, the shortboard version of this move is done off the tail, as a sharp turn, usually off the bottom when faced with an unmakeable section, and due to the low volume of the board, can be successfully executed in much larger surf. It may even be true that you can put more pressure (or "lift", as you call it) into your turn-out going backside, but unless you can rotate your body sufficiently to present minimal area while punching thru, you're still more likely to get stuck in the face and worked, I think. Your Mileage May Vary, -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Tweed La Jolla, CA e-mail: tweedt@ucsd.edu or tweedt@aol.com "Don't let your mouth write no check that your tail can't cash." -- Bo Diddley -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From szborges@chip.ucdavis.edu Sat Jan 18 01:17:24 1997 Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Left or Right??.... From: szborges@chip.ucdavis.edu (Will Borgeson) Date: 18 Jan 1997 01:17:24 GMT kdalle@slip.net wrote: : Actually pulling through backside is easier thant frontside because the : lift off your heals is stronger than that off your toes. This is a : maneuver that I picked up in the sixties from watching movies of : Hawaiian. It was called and "Island Pullout". Just as it's harder (at least for me) to kick out backside, it's harder for me to do the Shaun maneuver backside, no matter what you call it. I don't think I've ever tried it backside. BTW there isn't any lift involved in the Shaun maneuver. You are just power-stuffing the nose, and hopefully yourself, straight thru the back of the wave. Your feet are pretty much flat when you do it. We used to call it a 'standing island' pullout, but that was an almost passive longboard thing where you would wedge the nose in and the wave would kind of go past you. The Shaun maneuver is much more active and aggressive. It is done with the board perpendicular to the wave, or nearly so, while the old longboards were hard - to say the least - to get perpendicular to the wave (while riding of course). Will From tbmaddux@alumnae.caltech.edu Thu Jan 16 23:20:12 1997 Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Left or Right??.... From: tbmaddux@alumnae.caltech.edu (Timothy B. Maddux) Date: 16 Jan 1997 23:20:12 GMT In article <5blh25$l0g$1@mark.ucdavis.edu>, Will Borgeson wrote: >... a backside cuttie has you going frontside >briefly, which I think to most feels more "normal" >or natural. I'd have to agree with the notion that it is easier to carve a backside cutback than a frontside cutback. The backside cutback feels a lot like a frontside bottom turn. I don't think there is as good a parallel between backside bottom turns and a frontside roundhouse cutbacks. >... I think the most fun surfing is frontside when it's >so fast that there is no thought of cutting back, no turning >at all... with all the stunts and moves that have been invented >over the years, this simple act of "shooting the curl" remains, >to me, the true essence of surfing. Nicely put. For me it is an important *part* of surfing, but no one thing remains the true essence. Stunts and moves seem to stimulate a different part of my brain than full-rail fin-humming trimmed-out turns at speed, or tickling the nose of my 9'2" with an outstretched size 13 foot. I have a hard time picking one over the other. [ backside v.s. frontside tuberiding comments trimmed ] If only I got barrelled enough to have to worry about any of that! For now, all I can do is look at photos of Slater and others, in big hollow backside barrels, backside, and (as Will puts it) "stand[ing] like a man". -- .-``'. Timothy B. Maddux, Ocean Engineering Lab, UCSB .` .`~ http://www.engineering.ucsb.edu/~tbmaddux/ _.-' '._ "From the essence of pure stoke springs all creation." From ptomlin@aol.com Fri Jan 17 00:32:21 1997 Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Left or Right??.... From: ptomlin@aol.com Date: 17 Jan 1997 00:32:21 GMT In article <5bis0t$cu2$1@mark.ucdavis.edu>, szborges@dale.ucdavis.edu (Will Borgeson) writes: > Backside is cool because you can hammer your cutbacks, and because >if you *do* make it out of a barrel, i.e. with a layback, railgrab or >whatever, it's very satisfying because it is more difficult. Ditto >nailing a hard backside bottom turn. Feels awesome, especially when you >know you're about to link it with a killer backside off-the-lip. I reckon you can't beat a nice backside off-the-lip (love staring down from there, reminds me of bowl skating). -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gadget Bude, Cornwall, UK e-mail: ptomlin@aol.com Don't take yourself, or your surfing, seriously -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ric@discoveryinternational.com Thu Jan 16 20:19:08 1997 Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Left or Right??.... From: ric@discoveryinternational.com (Ric Harwood) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 20:19:08 GMT In alt.surfing, , pasque@isp.net (Gioni Pasquinelli), Gioni Pasquinelli wrote: >This is something I have been wondering about in my limited surfing >experience. Since I have only surfed the Santa Cruz area, I was wondering >if this is true everywhere? It seems like the premier breaks go right and >only occasionally are there lefts, but they are intense. And the lefts >are all short but seem to pack a bigger punch. And, there aren't many >lefts but lots of rights. > > >Is this true everywhere? Or are lefts more prevalent on the East Coast >whereas out here there are mostly rights? Again I have only surfed here >in the Santa Cruz area so just wondering... It just seems to be a feature of the area that you surf. A lot of out Cornish surfing is on beaches, which have pretty equal lefts and rights, but which change around with the swell direction or sand movement. Of our better reef/points there is a right, a left and a peak, plus a mix of lesser known ones. Ric -- EuroSurf forecasts: http://www.discoveryinternational.com/ric/surf.htm PGP public Key ID: 0766ABE5 From wfover@nist.gov Mon Jan 13 17:07:53 1997 Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Left or Right??.... From: Foondoggy Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:07:53 -0500 In my previous incarnation as a standup rider I was a goofy-foot. After many years of riding all size boards and practicing endlessly, I can honestly say my backside riding SUCKED!!!!! I would consciously not go right even if there were little or no chance to make the wave going left. Since I am genetically uncoordinated I would much rather appear to look like I knew what I was doing going left. As a result I never ever mastered the skill of the backhand ride and can count on one finger the number of memorable rides I got going in that direction (a total fluke). Now among the proud family of bodyboarders, I can honestly say I don't even think about which direction I go in. It doesn't matter and I don't care. My only thought and it's more of an instinct than a conscious choice, is to seek out and ride the very best part of the wave. I admire standup riders who have the skill and experience to do the same, be it front or backside riding. Something I could never do. As a result I passed up many righthangers 'cause I knew I could not do them justice. Now when I ride I don't limit my possibilities of riding by yellin' "Right! or Left!" I just scream COMIN"!! -Foondoggy From ckjsurf@cris.com Wed Jan 15 05:10:18 1997 To: Foondoggy Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Left or Right??.... From: Chuck Johnson Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 21:10:18 -0800 Foondoggy wrote: > > In my previous incarnation as a standup rider I was a goofy-foot. After > many years of riding all size boards and practicing endlessly, I can > honestly say my backside riding SUCKED!!!!! I would consciously not go > right even if there were little or no chance to make the wave going > left. Since I am genetically uncoordinated I would much rather appear to > look like I knew what I was doing going left. As a result I never ever > mastered the skill of the backhand ride and can count on one finger the > number of memorable rides I got going in that direction (a total fluke). > > Now among the proud family of bodyboarders, I can honestly say I don't > even think about which direction I go in. It doesn't matter and I don't > care. My only thought and it's more of an instinct than a conscious > choice, is to seek out and ride the very best part of the wave. I admire > standup riders who have the skill and experience to do the same, be it > front or backside riding. Something I could never do. As a result I > passed up many righthangers 'cause I knew I could not do them justice. > > Now when I ride I don't limit my possibilities of riding by yellin' > "Right! or Left!" I just scream COMIN"!! > > -Foondoggy Foondoggy....Is This Your routine?......Spinner, El rollo, Spinner, El Rollo....Spinner, El Rollo...Spinner, Spinner...El rollo..Bodyboarding is for kooks like you who could "never quite get the hang of going backside"....Fucking Speedbumps From ???@??? Wed Jan 15 14:02:13 1997 To: wfover@nist.gov Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Left or Right??.... From: Foondoggy, Chuck Johnson wrote: > Foondoggy....Is This Your routine?......Spinner, El rollo, Spinner, El > Rollo....Spinner, El Rollo...Spinner, Spinner...El rollo..Bodyboarding > is for kooks like you who could "never quite get the hang of going > backside"....Fucking Speedbumps Actually Chuck, or is that UpChuck, you give me a lot more credit than I'm due. My usually routine is to snake as many shortboarders as I can, cut them off BAD, run them over if possible, THEN I do an El Rollo (spinners are for real pussies ;^) Then, I go up on the beach, rape everyone's girlfriend, eat all their food, steal their money and torch their cars. So you see upChuck, if I did all those El Rollos and spinners I'd obviously be as dizzy as you are and I couldn't have a good time at the beach. "Fucking Speedbump?" Really upChuck, that's so unimaginative. I've been called a lot worse by bigger Kooks than you. I expected a lot more from a guy whose last name is "Johnson". Or is that just a nickname? Thanks for the kind words, mebbe we can get together for a session. I'll be the big guy on the Black Toobs cutting off standups, raping and pillaging. And you'll be the guy.... with the (little) johnson. Fondly, -Foondoggy (I love guys like upchuck, they make my day!) "Every man in the world is better than some one else, and not as good as some one else." -William Saroyan -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet From ric@discoveryinternational.com Thu Jan 16 20:19:13 1997 Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Left or Right??.... From: ric@discoveryinternational.com (Ric Harwood) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 20:19:13 GMT In alt.surfing, <32DA6BE9.4BD6@nist.gov>, Foondoggy , Foondoggy wrote: >Now when I ride I don't limit my possibilities of riding by yellin' >"Right! or Left!" I just scream COMIN"!! I couldn't say that my backside was anything better than erratic, but then that's true for my frontside too. {:^( I think that when it "comes together" it's on my backside more than my front, but not often. As for preferences, Id' rather be frontside in anything up to chest high, but then backside from there up to overhead and a half. From there on I'd be "sandside" [aka sat on the beach,] but we don't see that often, [like ever.] If it's throwing, ATM I'd need to be frontside to see it, but as I still don't seem to be able to get inside yet it doesn't really matter. {:^( Generally just take what's on offer and enjoy it. ATB Ric -- EuroSurf forecasts: http://www.discoveryinternational.com/ric/surf.htm PGP public Key ID: 0766ABE5 From skemp@cs.strath.ac.uk Tue Jan 14 13:22:13 1997 Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Left or Right??.... From: skemp@cs.strath.ac.uk (Simon Kemp TBS95) Date: 14 Jan 1997 13:22:13 GMT In article <5b7p3n$h4v@pleides.cloudnet.com>, surfboy@antares.cloudnet.com (Larry Carlson) writes: San O' has a noticable south drift, and I like to keep my |> truck in sight....so If I go right, I end up a considerable way down |> the beach then if I had gone left. |> Plus...I'm a goofy foot type dude. I don't know if my comfortableness |> going left has anything to do with being goofy-footed or if it just has |> something to do with being within paddeling distance of seeing my truck I'm goofy too, but at my local if I go left, I end up on the rocks, and if I go right I end up on the lovely soft sand and deep water. I always go right. The rip can go either north or south there. I saw one poor guy stuck out in front of the rocks for a good hour or so paddling like mad. He didn't catch any waves, just paddled straight back in completely knackered. Nae luck said I Si. From xstream1@iwl.net Wed Jan 15 02:18:58 1997 Newsgroups: alt.surfing Subject: Re: Left or Right??.... From: xstream1@iwl.net Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 02:18:58 GMT >In article <5b7p3n$h4v@pleides.cloudnet.com>, surfboy@antares.cloudnet.com (Larry Carlson) writes: >I'm goofy too, but at my local if I go left, I end up on the rocks, and if I go >right I end up on the lovely soft sand and deep water. I always go right. Hey, I don't surf goofy foot, but I go left or right. I prefer going right but when I'm sharing the wave with another surfer, I get on the left side, yell, " going left" and head left, that way we both get to ride. One day we were all trying to switch stances after we popped up, man! talk about strange! The board seemed very slippery and loose. Actually, it was pretty fun. Tried the goofy stance only on the smaller waves though. Couldn't resist touching the wave on the frontside - you know- : ) Ricky Cheatwood xstream1@iwl.net